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Eric Goldman

Another issue to investigate, at least in expensive housing markets, is any housing assistance the school may provide. In some markets, this can be quite significant. Eric.

Jim Salzman

Brian, this is a useful list. While a smaller issue, those accepting offers will want to clarify the school's reimbursement policy for your moving expenses and trips for house-hunting in the area.

mike livingston

All useful, but assuming you have more than one offer in hand, I think the most important things are the intangibles. One question I always used to ask at any job interview is, what are you working on today? Not what do you usually do, which is easily fakeable, but what are you doing right now? If there's nobody at the school on the day you visit, there's probably nobody there on other days, either. If students and faculty pay no attention to each other, they probably won't when you get there, either. Talking to the other young people is especially important: the Dean may change over the summer, but the people your own age will probably be with you for a while. Good luck!

Brian Leiter

Of course what Mike mentions is highly relevant, as are factors like those discussed here:

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/careerservices/rankinglawschools

I was trying to focus here on the 'tangibles,' as it were. The 'intangibles' are often very personal matters, but no less important for that.

Bill Turnier

One should also ask about the availability of research assistants during the academic year and the summer. Find out the number of indivuduals and hours to which you are entitled (if any). It is also important to learn about the amount of professional developmnet money (cash used to buy books, attend conferences, etc) available as a right. It is noice to have a reasonable sum available to you and not to have to beg the dean to be able to attend AALS meetings or other professional meetings or still worse pay for such things out of yourown pocket.

Dan Markel

We have a couple threads on this issue, started by HLS prawf Glenn Cohen.
What to ask before you have an offer
http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/04/asking-question.html
What to ask after you have an offer
http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/04/asking-questi-1.html

David Levine

Re: Brian's #5: Some law schools (particularly at large public universities) have defined benefit pensions rather than defined contribution plans. These can be very valuable salary enhancements. The formula works very differently, so it is important to understand the difference if this is a consideration for you.

Lawrence Solum

I've posted some thoughts on Legal Theory Blog, which are repeated here:

I might add one or two questions:

* In addition to the written tenure standards, it is appropriate to ask about the decision-making process. Is the law-school faculty and dean's decision effectively the "final word" on tenure or does university-wide body engage in something like "hard look" review of tenure recommendations by departments and colleges. What is the track record of the law school on tenure? Has anyone been turned down (either at the law school or university level) in the last five years?

* What support does the law school offer for the development of the national reputation of junior scholars? Does the law school participate in junior workshop exchange programs? Will you be offered the opportunity to organize a conference or speaker series?

* Does the law school have a formal mentoring program? Is there a faculty member in your field who would be an appropriate mentor?

Leiter suggests a somewhat cautious approach to issues concerning employment opportunities for the signficant other of the recipient of an offer. I don't disagree, but many law schools will prefer that this issue be raised as early as possible--because adequate employment opportunties for the partner or spouse of a new tenure-track faculty member is likely to play an important role in retention.

Most law schools offer candidates with offers a "second visit"--which will usually include an opportunity to socialize informally with faculty members, check out things like real estate and schools, and so forth. This is a wonderful opportunity for offerees to gather information about what could well be a lifelong decision. Plan this visit carefully!

Paul Secunda

I have a long list of issues candidates should discuss in my piece, Tales of Law Professor Lateral Nothing, http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1105933.

Though written with laterals in mind, many of the suggestions apply with equal force to entry-level candidates.

Kim Lane Scheppele


In addition to the useful suggestions above, here are some other things that entry-level faculty may want to consider:

 Talk to the junior faculty at the school. They are the ones who have the lives most similar to the one you are contemplating. Are their lives ones you would want to have?

 Look at the publications of junior faculty at the school. Do they thank senior colleagues, junior colleagues, workshops at the school, librarians, support staff and/or research assistants at the school? If so, then this tells you that there is probably a supportive research climate.

 Meet the librarians and the support staff. How are library liaisons and secretaries/faculty assistants assigned to junior faculty? How many faculty share each library liaison and faculty assistant?

 Meet the students. Funny that few people mention this, but student cultures vary a great deal school to school, even within the same prestige level – and you will be spending a lot of your time in the midst of it. Find out if students are penalized in the local culture for speaking up in class – or if students are so competitive that no one is having fun. See if the students want only black-letter law or are willing to be more adventurous. Find out if they are happy campers with the curriculum and with the opportunities they are getting from the school. Teaching happy students in the best way to have a good faculty experience, and see if you can figure out whether the students are already happy before you get them.

 If you have interdisciplinary training, try to meet the department chair and faculty in your “other” field. Joint appointments with arts-and-sciences departments are surprisingly hard to arrange at most law schools, and they may be inadvisable pre-tenure in any event because you may get caught in the crossfire of competing expectations (e.g. the disciplinary department will want your dissertation published as a book and the law school doesn’t know what to do with a book in lieu of law review articles). But you will want to make sure that your other discipline is willing to welcome you into their midst. Ask if you can teach courses on occasion in that department – or if you can advise (particularly graduate) students without a full joint appointment. See if you can get onto their seminar and workshop list – or otherwise be included in departmental intellectual occasions.

 If you do grants-based empirical research, ask if you are allowed to buy out a semester or two with grants before you come up for tenure. Law schools are often surprisingly resistant to this idea; better to know before you try!

 Ask about parental leave (or, if your parents are aging, eldercare support). With parental leave, some schools give it automatically for both parents. Other schools require you ask and even look down upon you if you take it. Ask how parental leave affects the tenure clock. And ask how much support the school has for junior faculty with children (e.g. childcare facilities, emergency childcare support, tolerance for bringing kids to the office when all else fails). To make sure the policies you are told by the dean are real on the ground, ask other junior faculty what they have done if they have had children.

 If you are asked to teach a course in the core curriculum, ask how many other faculty rotate into teaching that subject. If you are the only one who can teach criminal procedure, or securities regulation, or intellectual property, then you might want to contemplate what life will be like if you can never avoid teaching that course every year. Repetition is good in the early years of teaching, but eventually a course you have to teach every year will feel like a life sentence.

 Many schools provide course relief in the first year or two while you are getting used to a full-time teaching load. Ask if you can ease into your new workload gradually by getting a course off in the first year – and maybe even in the second.

Good luck!

Mary Dudziak

To follow up on Kim's point for those with interdisciplinary training -- interdisciplinary teaching on the grad level is usually accommodated by law schools, since grad students can sign up for your law school seminar, and hopefully you can cross-list the course. The more difficult issue is teaching undergrads, so this is something to think about if you are in a position to ask for things because you have more than one offer. Some legal history courses may work especially well as a lecture course -- for example Morton Horwitz taught a legendary undergrad lecture course on the Warren Court at Harvard. But this sort of teaching often involves law and arts & sciences deans working out budget issues -- since your salary is covered by the law school, but under some university finance structures, the student tuition dollars tied to your course go to the college of arts & sciences. If you care about this issue, work it out when you have offers in hand, and get it in your offer letter, rather than relying on vague statements that someone will waive a magic wand and everything will work out in the end.

Whether you should ask for the opportunity to teach an undergrad course, at least occasionally, is another issue. Pre-tenure you'll want to focus on contributing to the law school. The deal I worked out when making a lateral move was to teach an undergrad course every other year that has an advanced component for law students. This will allow me to teach constitutional history as a lecture course to a broader group of students, while also letting law students enroll (and write law school level papers).

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